William Binney: The Future of Freedom

Tragedy and Hope, 28 January 2015

Richard Andrew Grove interviews William Binney

I. Meine Zusammenfassung

unter Verwendung der Analogie

zwischen

biologischen Organismen und gesellschaftlichen Gruppierungen (Staaten)

Joachim Gruber

In meinen Augen beschreibt Binney die Aufgaben von Überwachung analog zu den Aufgaben des Immunsystems. Die Einzelheiten, die er schildert, lassen sich im Rahmen dieser Analogie deuten.

• In der Analogie ist der Organismus die Gesellschaft und das Immunsystem die Gesamtheit der an der Steuerung der Gesellschaft Interessierten.
• Das Immunsystem orientiert sich an Markern auf fremden Zellen. Was diese Marker nicht trägt, wird ignoriert. Ähnlich muss sich eine Überwachung an Eigenschaften der potentiellen Feinde orientieren (an den Beziehungen, sozialen, finanziellen, örtlichen und anderen Netzwerken) und alles ignorieren, das diese Eigenschaften nicht hat.
• Die Aufgabe von Immunsystem und Überwachung ist, geeignete Marker in einem Lernprozess zu erkennen,
• Die Lebensfähigkeit eines Organismusses hängt davon ab, wie gut sein Immunsystem funktioniert. Analog gilt das auch für eine Gesellschaft.
• Ein Organismus erkrankt an einer Autoimmunkrankheit, wenn sein Immunsystem häufig self mit non-self verwechselt. Analoges gilt für Gesellschaften: Wenn die Geheimdienste/Polizei die eigenen Bürger fälschlich als Feinde deklariert (Beispiel: Gestapo in Nazi-Deutschland, KGB in der Sovietunion, Stasi in der DDR), leidet die Gesellschaft.
• Ein Organismus mit gut funktionierendem Immunsystem entwickelt sich, ist stark und kreativ, nimmt Evolutionschancen wahr. Analoges gilt für eine Gesellschaft, bei der umgekehrt die grundlose Diskriminierung und Eliminierung von Teilen der Gesellschaft (z.B. der Intelligenz, von Whistleblowern) zu vorauseilendem Gehorsam, Apathie, Konformismus, wirtschaftlicher Stagnation und letztendlich zu Zerfall führt.
• Beispiel: Im Herbst 2000 hatte die amerikanische Gesellschaft (bzw. die NSA) in ThinThread ein Überwachungsprogramm ("Immunsystem"), das gut Unbeteiligte und Feinde trennen konnte.. Das bewies es in 5 Ländern, darunter in Deutschland. Ab dem 20. August 2001 wurde es nicht weiter eingesetzt, und durch ein um mehr als den Faktor 1000 teureres geplantes(Trailblazer) ersetzt, das bis zu seinem Förderungsende in 2006 keine Ergebnisse geliefert hat. In einem Probelauf nach 9/11 hat ThinThread sofort gezeigt, dass es die Terroristen schon zum Zeitpunkt ihres Besteigen des Flugzeugs nach San Diego erkannt und damit 9/11 verhindert hätte. Jeder Analyst hätte das gesehen, "es sprang einem ins Gesicht", niemand hätte es übersehen können. Whistleblower, die darauf hinwiesen, dass die NSA und der military-industrial-intelligence complex die Sicherheit der Bevölkerung für Geld geopfert hat, wurden von der Regierung verfolgt, teilweise finanziell und psychisch ruiniert, unter falscher Anklage (malicious prosecution) (Klage der Whistleblower beim US District Court of the District of Columbia, im Cache)
• Wie Binney an diesem Beispiel zeigt, ist der hinter Trailblazer stehende military-industrial-intelligence complex in meiner Analogie eine Erkrankung der Gesellschaft. Er verfolgt seine eigenen Ziel (Profitmaximierung, Überwachung der gesamten Zivilgesellschaft zum Zweck der Steuerung). Auch dazu gibt es in der Biologie Analoga: Manche Krankheitserreger programmieren das Immunsystem um, sodass sie nicht erkannt werden und ihre eigenen Ziele ungestört vefolgen können.
• Das Top-Management der NSA ist durch den Komplex "infiziert" und sollte ersetzt werden, damit die NSA-Belegschaft wieder sinnvoll arbeiten kann.
• Dieses Management arbeitet im geheimen: Wenn sie die Verfassung ändern wollen, sollten sie das stattdessen dem Kongress mitteilen; denn das ist der Weg dahin.
• In der Biologie tarnen sich erfolgreiche Krankheitserreger. In Gesellschaften helfen die Medien bei der Tarnung. Eine solche Tarnung ist z.B. die Diskussion darüber, wie man zwischen Freiheit und Sicherheit abwägen muss.
• Ähnlich wie ein lebender Organismus ein angeborenes Immunsystem hat, das sich aus der Evolution ergeben hat und das neue Leben zu Anfang schützt, gibt es in der amerikanischen Gesellschaft eine typische schützende Eigenschaft: die Achtung der Verfassung und daraus folgend die Übernahme von Verantwortung. Diese Eigenschaft gibt den Whistleblowern die Kraft, die Gefahren ihres Handelns zu ignorieren.
• Die Autoimmun-Erkrankung der amerikanischen Gesellschaft (Überwachung aller US-Bürger) überträgt die USA auf andere Gesellschaften (Staaten), die nach der Infektion abhängig von ihren Schwächen ihre eigenen Krankheitsformen (d.h. Verzerrungen ihres Rechtssystems unter Missachtung der Verfassung) entwickeln.
• Schlussfolgerung: 
• What I see happening is the intelligence communites or agencies of the world are gaining too much influence over how governments operate. And this is moving really to a Stasi state, basically, and it's not just the United States, it's countries all around the world. 
• So, I think, in terms of oversight by any government anywhere in the world of intelligence agencies 
• they have to find and make sure they have ways and means of verifying what those agencies are telling them. 
• They have to have outside sources coming in and validating what they're being told. 
• Otherwise these agencies will do basically what they want to do and tell whatever story they want to the congress or any other equivalent government organ anywhere in the world. 
• You have to be aware that these agencies are threatening what is fundamental to human rights everywhere. 
• And you have got to ensure that you have some way of verifying and keeping these agencies in line and whatever it takes in law or whatever it takes technically to make that happen these governments all around the world they need to do.

• Deshalb ist es für uns Deutsche von Vorteil, die amerikanischen Whistleblower anzuhören.

II. Aussagen im Interview

• Grundzüge der Demokratie, z.B. Regierung soll nicht Informationen über alle Bürger haben,
• Problem der auf der Basis der Überwachung fabrizierten Indizienbeweise (parallel construction) gegen eine Person direkt oder gegen eine andere Person, die ihr nahesteht. (information being used against people who critizise their government),
• Das sind die Methoden des KGB, der Gestapo oder Stasi. Entwicklung der USA in Richtung eines totalitären Systems. Population control. Man braucht das noch nicht einmal in die Tat umsetzen, weil es vorauseilenden Gehorsam gibt.
• Problem der un- und fehlinformierten, manipulierter und daher unfreien Bevölkerung
• Folgen des Einbaus von Hard- und Software-Schwachstellen zur Überwachung
• Fairview
• bulk data collection and sharing with other government agencies
• orders of magnitude more data, haystack: overwhelming the analysts, analysts are disfunctional, can't functiion in the environment NSA created for them.
• 9/11 could have been prevented with the data NSA had.
• the role of money
• building an empire
• history of surveillance in US
• automatisierte Überwachung im Einklang mit der Verfassung ist möglich: ThinThread,
• Gründe für das Stecknadel-Heuhaufen-Problem: Profit, Überwachung der Bevölkerung
• free press has shrunk because of government activities
• When you take away from people the freedom to be creative and innovative without having the fear of being observed or disapproved of before they can try to implement an idea that they have ... that's how civilisation advances. When you take away that feeling that you can do anything (without hurting people), you aren't bound by anything, then people withdraw like they did in East Germany or the Soviet Union. Civilisation will then stagnate, people become drunkards, It destroys human aspirations.
• Future of freedom: Acquisition of data is spreading throughout the democracies of the world. This information (which should be limited to the secret services) is being used by law enforcement (police)
• Zeitpunkt im Interview: 31:00
• "planned programmed perjury policy" run by the Department of Jusitice. They are subverting our judicial system off the model of the Soviet Union and the Stasi, I might add, and they spreading it around the world. All countries need to be concerned about this, not just the US.

Scene 2

I devoted my entire life to protecting the constitution and insuring that we'll continue to have that.The oath of office is to protect and defend the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. And now, the only threat, the real threat is the domestic one. What we've done to ourselves, no one could have done to us. And that is what the oath of office and the constitution was given to prevent. This is the time when all good Americans need to stand up and oppose this.

• Signal intelligence, analyzing data,
• the importance of networks, social networks, for analyzing the data. applies also the internet (who you communicate with, any communications means or media, applies to financial transaction (a financial network), same is true with travel, what search engines queries you do.
• automating data analysis. SIGINT automation center consisted of 16 people total at NSA.
• making analysts effective, analysts were already buried in data, malfunctioning, NSA was coming in with more and more tools for them to look at data. focussed targeted approach in termsb of graphing the relationships of people. Analogie mit Immunsystem: Relationships sind Marker, ähnlich den Oberflächenproteinen, an denen sich das Immunsystem orientiert. Was immer den Marker nicht hat, wird vom Immunsystem ignoriert.

• The development of the bulk surveillance program was started prior to 9/11.
• NSA wiretapped AT&T and Verizon and recorded hundreds of millions of phone calls prior to 9/11. Only 4 people of congress were let in on this.

1:05:43

Richard Grove: February 2001 AT&T and Verizon get these pieces of paper from the government, saying "we want your customers' data". AT&T used something called the NARUS device, and I'm sure there is an equivalent device at Verizon ...

William Binney: VERINT ...

RG: ... and what do these devices do specifically - and again, this was February 2001, am I correct?

1:06:30

WB: NARUS didn't, I think, start marketing things till about 2002. But before that, in 2001, early on they were going around soliciting informaton from different telecommunications companies. One we know about that is in court record is Qwest. Nacchio was the CEO of Qwest at the time. He refused to turn over all of their data. They approached him on 27th of February according to the court records, of 2001, which was about 7 months before 9/11. They were approaching him before 9/11 to get all of their data, all of their customer information. That was kind of implied: The intent was to get information on US citizens even before 9/11.

1:07:05

The key point about when they were approached is that we had proposed to deploy our system in November of 2000, just 3 or 4 months before they made this approach to Qwest, because we had everything connected and everything was functioning all the way back to the big-ass graphs, if you will the bag, or the social networking for everybody that was ingested in. We had projected at the time [that] we had no limit as to how many trillions of transactions we could take in, that we could still manage them with this process that we put together. 

The idea was that you took in trillions of relationships, like phone calls between people, but when you boiled it down you would only get tens of billions of relationships you need uniquely, and all the others would only be repeats of those tens of billions of relationships. So we would put together a system that would built the relationship and then keep a counter of how many times we had a record of that relationship, rather than keep the entire list of the ... If we saw something a 1000 times, we simply had it once and say "we saw it a 1000 times", as opposed to listing it 1000 times. So that's how we could boil it down to a small set of information and keep it in a rather compact set of storage. That's how we projected we could graph every transaction in the world that way. So we didn't have a problem with storage, and we didn't see a limit as to how much we could graph and put it together in a B+ tree type index, which meant we had fast access to it to make decisions, as data was passing by, on whether or not we should keep that data. That's how we fundamentally did it with a B+ tree type index query to keep up with the velocity of things in the fibre network. 

Anytime we started to get pressed in terms of CPU time processing, we would simply add another processor and simply split the process and make it manageable again. The only thing that kept us from doing any amount of data was how much space and power we had available and we could buy the equipment to make that happen.

RG: So prior to 9/11 AT&T and Verizon had complied with the government. This pre-9/11 collections of data means that the post-9/11 surveillance of the American citizens has nothing to do with 9/11 so much as they just wanted control and wanted to break into this fibre optic networks, and AT&T and Verizon complied, and Joseph Nacchio from Qwest said "No". What happened to him?

WB: He ended up in jail. I think they went at him. He claims he was framed (deutsch vielleicht "reingelegt"). I don't doubt it because they attempted to frame me, too. Except they didn't succeed. I had evidence to show that that was a frame job and it was malicious prosecution on their part. But evidently he couldn't do that, so he ended up in jail for a couple of years, I think he recently got out of jail.

I think that they used 9/11 as a way they could intimidate Congress into making it happen, to allow them to do that. And that's the way they did it. They had to keep it so secret, because they knew they wouldn't be permitted by Congress or the courts to do it when they didn't keep it secret. So they allowed only 4 members of the Congress to know about it, the Chairs and Ranking Members of the House and Senate Intelligence Committees. That was it. (01:10:55)

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